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From: Claire Forbes
Date: Tue, Feb 13 2024 8:55AM
Subject: Accessible Excel files
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Good morning, everyone!
For product testing I have been using Excel spreadsheet checklists from HHS=
.gov (which one of you helpful folks directed me to). I'm really struggling=
working through the accessibility review of an Excel document - the check =
list has items that align with WCAG's 2.1 - Keyboard Accessible.
I have no idea how to test this as using the tab key because while "tabbing=
" in Excel, it continues to table alllll the way right, to the seemingly en=
dless empty/unused table cells. For a keyboard test, is it acceptable to us=
e the down arrow + tab to move through the content?
Thank you!
Claire
From: Dean.Vasile@outlook.com
Date: Tue, Feb 13 2024 9:24AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Excel files
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Good morning Claire
Exactly what is it that you were trying to test in an Excel spreadsheet?
Because there are various ways of navigating tab usually switches you from cell to cell in a row. Enter switches you from cell to cell in a column.
But what are you looking for? And are you using a screen reader or just trying to test with a keyboard?
Dean Vasile
617-799-1162
> On Feb 13, 2024, at 10:56â¯AM, Claire Forbes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
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> Good morning, everyone!
> For product testing I have been using Excel spreadsheet checklists from HHS.gov (which one of you helpful folks directed me to). I'm really struggling working through the accessibility review of an Excel document - the check list has items that align with WCAG's 2.1 - Keyboard Accessible.
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> I have no idea how to test this as using the tab key because while "tabbing" in Excel, it continues to table alllll the way right, to the seemingly endless empty/unused table cells. For a keyboard test, is it acceptable to use the down arrow + tab to move through the content?
>
> Thank you!
> Claire
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From: Claire Forbes
Date: Tue, Feb 13 2024 9:34AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Excel files
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Yes, thank you! I was just looking for best practices to test with a keyboard alone and ensure it meets the compliance marks for "2.1 - Keyboard Accessible"
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Good morning Claire
Exactly what is it that you were trying to test in an Excel spreadsheet?
Because there are various ways of navigating tab usually switches you from cell to cell in a row. Enter switches you from cell to cell in a column.
But what are you looking for? And are you using a screen reader or just trying to test with a keyboard?
Dean Vasile
617-799-1162
> On Feb 13, 2024, at 10:56â¯AM, Claire Forbes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = > wrote:
>
> Good morning, everyone!
> For product testing I have been using Excel spreadsheet checklists from HHS.gov (which one of you helpful folks directed me to). I'm really struggling working through the accessibility review of an Excel document - the check list has items that align with WCAG's 2.1 - Keyboard Accessible.
>
> [cid:image001.png@01DA5E6A.B29A6C60]
>
> I have no idea how to test this as using the tab key because while "tabbing" in Excel, it continues to table alllll the way right, to the seemingly endless empty/unused table cells. For a keyboard test, is it acceptable to use the down arrow + tab to move through the content?
>
> Thank you!
> Claire
>
> > > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
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From: Steve Green
Date: Tue, Feb 13 2024 10:46AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Excel files
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Although you can apply some of the WCAG success criteria to Excel files, many are not applicable and others need to be interpreted in the context of an entirely different technology. It's got very little in common with website accessibility testing.
There are two main issues with keyboard navigation:
1. The grid of cells does not have a defined reading order. This is different from linear file formats like websites, PDFs, Word documents etc.. For Excel files, the solution is to put everything into column A except for two-dimensional content like tables. If you put things in other columns, blind screen reader users wonât find them.
2. Floating elements such as images, charts, Text Boxes, form controls etc. do have a linear focus order, but it has no relationship with the grid of cells. In most cases we recommend either not using floating elements at all, or marking them as decorative and providing their content in the grid of cells.
There is much, much more to it than that. We have a 4-hour training course on creating accessible Excel files â Iâm not trying to sell it, but it gives you an idea of how much there is to learn. Much of that information is on the web, but itâs fragmented and some of it is wrong.
If you follow all the guidelines, Excel files can be reasonably accessible, but my experience has been that they almost never are if the accessibility wasnât intentionally designed in. The layout often needs to be changed substantially, and Excelâs constraints mean itâs sometimes just not possible to make a file accessible.
Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd
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Yes, thank you! I was just looking for best practices to test with a keyboard alone and ensure it meets the compliance marks for "2.1 - Keyboard Accessible"
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Subject: Re: [WebAIM] Accessible Excel files
Good morning Claire
Exactly what is it that you were trying to test in an Excel spreadsheet?
Because there are various ways of navigating tab usually switches you from cell to cell in a row. Enter switches you from cell to cell in a column.
But what are you looking for? And are you using a screen reader or just trying to test with a keyboard?
Dean Vasile
617-799-1162
> On Feb 13, 2024, at 10:56â¯AM, Claire Forbes < = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = <mailto: = EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED = >> wrote:
>
> Good morning, everyone!
> For product testing I have been using Excel spreadsheet checklists from HHS.gov (which one of you helpful folks directed me to). I'm really struggling working through the accessibility review of an Excel document - the check list has items that align with WCAG's 2.1 - Keyboard Accessible.
>
> [cid:image001.png@01DA5E6A.B29A6C60]
>
> I have no idea how to test this as using the tab key because while "tabbing" in Excel, it continues to table alllll the way right, to the seemingly endless empty/unused table cells. For a keyboard test, is it acceptable to use the down arrow + tab to move through the content?
>
> Thank you!
> Claire
>
>
> > archives at http://webaim.org/discussion/archives
>